| Name |
Herbert Thrale |
- Called Herbert Donald Thrale, but just named Herbert Thrale on his birth certificate. Widely known as 'Donald' or 'Don'. Was supposed to be named Hubert, but apparently, his father accidentally registered Herbert instead and the name stuck. [1]
|
| Nickname |
Donald |
| Birth |
17 Mar 1895 |
Church Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England  [2] |
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Birth certificate
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| Gender |
Male |
| Census |
1901 [3] |
| Age: 6 years |
| Census |
2 Apr 1911 |
12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England |
| Errand boy, single |
| Age: 16 |
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UK census 1911
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| Physical Description |
Sep 1914 |
| Army medical examination on enlistment aged 19 years, 6 months. Height 5 feet 7 inches. 34" chest. Good vision and good physical development. However, daughter Olga Thrale later recalled that her father was Mum said he was 6ft 3 inches tall. |
| Military Service |
Sep 1914 - 05 May 1919 |
| Enlisted with 17th County of London Battalion as Private 3097 in St Albans. Transferred to Royal Engineers. WR11368 & 551343. Transferred to Labour Corps 282425. Discharged at Purfleet Essex. Served in France. According to his son Brian Thrale, during WWI Herbert stabbed a German in the hand and ran away. |
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British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Awarded three medals:
* 1914-15 STAR was awarded for service in France or Flanders (Belgium) between 23 November 1914 and 31 December 1915.
* ALLIED VICTORY MEDAL (Victory Medal) was awarded for service in any operational theater between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was issued to individuals who received the 1914 and 1914-15 Stars and to most individuals who were issued the British War Medal.
* BRITISH WAR MEDAL was awarded to both servicemen and civilians that either served in a theater of war, or rendered service overseas between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. |
| Note |
Luton FC supporter. |
| Note |
Abt 1925 [4] |
| Herbert was said to be a bundle of fun. However, he could also sometimes be drunk and violent towards his wife. However, he came home one day and said he would never drink alcohol again with one exception, when his son Kenneth David Thrale got married, he didn't drink again until he died. |
| Note |
Jun 1928 |
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Spittle sisters, June 1928.
From L-R: Nellie Ridd née Spittles, Wilfred Ridd, Louisa's husband, Louisa Spittles, Rose Thrale née Spittles, Herbert Thrale |
| Occupation |
28 Sep 1920-28 Aug 1928 [5, 6] |
| Journeyman house painter |
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Birth certificate for Norman Jack Thrale
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| Residence |
28 Aug 1928 |
Kilburn, Middlesex, England |
| Residence |
1932 - 1935 |
89 Netherwood Street, Kilburn, Middlesex, England [2, 7, 8] |
| Note |
Abt 1936 |
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At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
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| Name |
Herbert Donald Thrale [9] |
| Residence |
1949 |
10 Westcroft Way, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England [7] |
| Occupation |
4 Sep 1959 |
| Turner, Clockmaker |
| Residence |
Bef 1960 |
8a Leamington Road, West Hampstead, Middlesex, England |
| Occupation |
18 Mar 1960 [10] |
| General labourer clock factory (retired) |
| Residence |
Kilburn, Middlesex, England [11] |
Address:
28 Chichelle Road |
| Death |
18 Mar 1960 |
10 Westcroft Way, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England |
| Cause: 1a Coronary occlusion. 1b athleroma. 2 Hypertension. |
- Certified after post-mortem without inquest. Herbert died from a heart attack on the toilet on the morning of his last day at work before he retired.
|
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Death certificate of Herbert Thrale
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| Burial |
Golders Green, Middlesex, England [12] |
Address:
62 Hoop Lane |
| Association |
Stacey Donald Thrale (Relationship: Stacey Donald Thrale named in memory of Grandfather Herbert "Donald" Thrale) |
| Notes |
- Herbert was said to be a bundle of fun. Although, he could also sometime be drunk and violent towards his wife. However, he came home one day and said he would never drink alcohol again with one exception, when his son Kenneth David Thrale got married, he didn't drink again until he died. [4]
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| Person ID |
I235 |
UK Thrale family |
| Last Modified |
4 Sep 2024 |
| Father |
William Thrale, b. 16 Nov 1853, Hamwell Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England d. 9 Jun 1931, 1a Butlin Road, Luton, Bedfordshire, England (Age 77 years) |
| Mother |
Sophia Jane McCulloch, b. 27 Aug 1853, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England d. 6 Mar 1915, Luton, Bedfordshire, England (Age 61 years) |
| Marriage |
21 Jun 1874 |
Saint Mary Magdelen, Bermondsey, Surrey, England [13, 14] |
- CISSIE THRALE: From somewhere - I don't know the source - I had a Cissie Thrale (presumably diminutive for Cecilia) as a daughter of William Thrale and Sophia McCulloch, and that Cissie married G Squire and had 4 kids. Today I discovered reliable documentary evidence that Harriet Kate Sophia Thrale married George Squires. I have therefore transferred George and his kids to Harriet Kate Sophia. Clearly Cissie is not a diminutive of Harriet, Kate or Sophia. The question is whether Cissie exists. have found no record of her anywhere else. therefore I have deleted her. However I will leave a note here, just in case.
JACK THRALE: From somewhere - I don't know the source - I also had a Jack Thrale as a son of William Thrale and Sophia McCulloch, and that Jack married married Rose White. Jack is a diminutive for John. I already have a John Thrale and I have documentary proof of his existence. John Thrale married Rosetta Wright, incredibly similar to Rose White. Therefore I have concluded that infact the untraceable Jack Thrale and Rose White are infact John Thrale and Rosetta Wright. However, just in case I am wrong, I have left this note here. [1]
|
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Marriage certificate
William Thrale and Sophia McCulloch |
| Family ID |
F80 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family |
Rose Spittle, b. 15 Jan 1894, 58 Church Street, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England d. 9 Mar 1973, Hampstead, Middlesex, England (Age 79 years) |
| Marriage |
28 Sep 1920 |
Registry Office, Willesden, Middlesex, England |
- Marriage witnessed by W D Guyler & J Guyler (nephew) [11]
|
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Marriage certificate
Herbert Thrale and Rose Spittle |
| Notes |
- Herbert was said to be the youngest of 21 children, however, the records do not bear this out to be true. [15]
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| Children |
| | 1. Norman Jack Thrale, b. 7 Jan 1923, Acton, Middlesex, England d. 9 Dec 1923, Hampstead, Middlesex, England (Age 0 years) |
| + | 2. Olga Eileen Isobel Thrale, b. 22 Oct 1924, Hampstead, Middlesex, England d. 23 May 2012, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England (Age 87 years) |
| + | 3. Kenneth David Thrale, b. 28 Aug 1928, West Hampstead, Middlesex, England d. 31 Jul 1987, Kingsbury, Middlesex, England (Age 58 years) |
| | 4. Gatenby Brian Thrale |
| + | 5. Frances Margaret Thrale |
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| Family ID |
F88 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
4 Sep 2024 |
Thrale/Thrall history
1895 - 1960 (65 years)
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