Sarah Thorpe

Sarah married Thomas Thrale in 1823 in Saint Marylebone, Middlesex, England. Thomas (son of Ralph Thrale and Abigail Burchmore) was born on 5 Dec 1800 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 10 Feb 1801 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1840. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 77 years
• Residence: 1901, Ashford, England

Notes:

Died:
The GRO lists a Sarah Thrale as dying in the June 1907 qtr in Staines aged 85. Vol 3a page 2.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Baker & beer seller; Address:
  The Boot
  High Street
• Residence: Gustard Wood, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Alt. Birth: 1826, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Saint Mary
• Census: 30 Mar 1851, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Thomas Thrale, Married, 25, Baker & Beer Seller b Luton, Beds Eliza Thrale, wife, 24 born Wheathampstead Sarah Thrale dau, 2 born Wheathampstead Thomas R. Thrale, son 1m born Wheathampstead James Peacock, relative, unmarried 26 Ag Lab born Wheathampstead Henry O'Dell, lodger unmarried 22, Fishmonger, born Wheathampstead; Address:
  The Boot, High Street
• Occupation: 29 Mar 1857; Baker (Journeyman)
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas THRALE Rel: Head Occ: Master Baker M 55 M Wheathampstead Eliza THRALE Rel: Wife M 53 F Wheathampstead Harriett THRALE Rel: Daur U 21 F Wheathampstead Thomas THRALE Rel: G Son Occ: Scholar 6 M Wheathampstead Amelia OCKMORE Rel: Visitor 26 F London, London, Middlesex, England Daniel WELSH Rel: Boarder Occ: Journeyman Baker 29 M Kimpton Wm. PINDER Rel: Boarder Occ: Journeyman Baker 16 M Wheathampstead; : 55 yrs; Address:
  High Street
• Occupation: 28 Apr 1848-14 Nov 1881; Baker

Thomas married Elizabeth Peacock on 28 Apr 1848 in Saint Luke, Middlesex, England. Elizabeth (daughter of William Peacock) was born on 14 Jun 1827 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; died on 3 Jul 1899 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Property: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  The Maltings
• Residence: 1841, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Grandchildren (sons of Abigail's son Thomas Thrale) Norman Thrale (aged 10) and William Thrale (aged 12) were living with "grumpy grandmother" Abigail Thrale née Burchmore.
• Census: 1851, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; William Thrale, Unmarried, 23, Baker Master, b Luton, Beds; Address:
  High Street
• Census: 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Lists a widower William Thrale aged 52 that is most likely to be this William Thrale. William THRALE Rel: Head Occ: Retired Farmer ((Gentleman)) W 52 M Luton Sarah WILSHER Rel: Serv Occ: Housekeeper U 42 F Wheathampstead; : 52 years; Address:
  High Street

William married Sarah Sibley in 1 Jan 1852-31 Mar 1852 in Marylebone, Middlesex, England. Sarah died in 1869. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  The Folly PH
• Alt. Birth: Bef 18 Nov 1832, Luton, Bedfordshire, England
• Census: 30 Mar 1851, Cross Keys, Gustard Wood, Hertfordshire, England; Norman Thrale, Nephew, unmarried 19 Miller journeyman born Luton, Beds Working for John & Mary Sibley, Shoemaker & Victualler
• Occupation: Between 28 Nov 1871 and 1891; Miller
• Residence: Between 28 Nov 1871 and 17 Mar 1875, Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1881, Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; Dwelling: Port Hill Common Census Place: Bengeo, Hertford, England Marr Age Sex Birthplace Norman THRALE Rel: Head Occ: C Miller M 49 M Luton, Bedford, England Caroline THRALE Rel: Wife M 39 F Codicote, Hertford, England Norman THRALE Rel: Son Occ: Scholar U 16 M Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Alice THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 12 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Rosa THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 10 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Charlotte THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 9 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Clara THRALE Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar U 6 F Wheathampstead, Hertford, England Ralph THRALE Rel: Son U 2 M Hertford, Hertford, England Infant THRALE Rel: Daur U 6d F Hertford, Hertford, England Sophia COBB Rel: Nurse Occ: Monthly Nurse S M S 59 F Kimpton, Hertford, England; Address:
  Port Hill Common
• Residence: 1881, Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; Port Hill Common

Norman married Caroline Welch on 1 Jun 1864 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Caroline (daughter of George Welch and Elizabeth Garrat) was born in 1842 in Codicote, Hertfordshire, England; died in 1884 in Bengeo, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Not 100% certain about this individuals existance

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Dress maker
• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 32

Sarah married William Ducker in 1 Jul 1871-30 Sep 1871. William was born in 1843-1844 in Ratcliffe, Stepney, Middlesex, England; died in Jan-Mar 1885 in Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
Herts Guardian, Agricultural Journal and General Advertiser - Saturday 16 June 1855 ... ?Wheathampstead - On Saturday the 2nd isnt., an inquest was held at the Red Cow, before R.G.Lowe Esq., coroner, on the body of Thos. Thrale aged 4 years, son of Thomas Thrale, formerly baker in this place and now of London. The child became suddenly ill, and the grandmother of the child sent for Mr. Crisp, surgeon, who attended, and on his arrival pronounced the little sufferer in a dying state. Mr Crisp was of opinion that the deceased died from hydrocephalus. Verdict was given accordingly.?

Other Events and Attributes:

• Physical Description: William and his family were renowned for their sporting feats at all local contests.
• Residence: 21 Jun 1874, Bermondsey, Surrey, England
• Occupation: Between 17 Oct 1874 and 6 Jun 1888; Journeyman baker
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; Rel: Head Occ: Journeyman Baker; : 27 years; Address:
  Cottage
• Occupation: Between 25 Jul 1881 and 20 Dec 1883; Watercress grower
• Census: 1891; : 36 years
• Occupation: 1891; General labourer
• Residence: 1891-18 Jan 1892, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Occupation: Between 20 May 1893 and 20 Jul 1896; Painter & Journeyman
• Residence: 20 May 1893, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  Church Street
• Occupation: 20 Feb 1899; Brewers labourer
• Census: 1901; Brewery labourer; : 48 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 57
• Occupation: 1911 - 28 Sept 1920; House painter and decorator
• Residence: 1918 - 9 Jun 1931, 1a Butlin Road, Luton, Bedfordshire, England

Notes:

Said to have been married three times and had 21 children and that Brian's father (Herbert Donald Thrale) was the youngest of 21, and that the third wife was Scottish. The records identified to date, do not confirm this.

William and his family were renowned for their sporting feats at all local contests

William married Sophia Jane McCulloch on 21 Jun 1874 in Saint Mary Magdelen, Bermondsey, Surrey, England. Sophia (daughter of John McCulloch and Mary Ann Lines) was born on 27 Aug 1853 in The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 2 Jan 1854 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; died on 6 Mar 1915 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Mabel Shepherd on 23 Mar 1920 in Registry Office, Luton, Bedfordshire, England. Mabel (daughter of George Shepherd and Mary Rogers) was born in Sep 1883; died in Jan - Mar 1961 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Unmarried; : 21 years; Address:
  High Street
• Residence: 14 Nov 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Residence: 5 Apr 1891, 79 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 30
• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

Harriett married William Edward Hodson on 14 Nov 1881 in St Helens, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. William (son of William Hodson) was born before 1860; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Harriett married William Thomas Trustram in April 1902 - Jun 1902 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. William (son of John Trustram and Sarah) was born in Apr 1874 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; was christened on 24 May 1874 in Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England; died in Oct-Dec 1924 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Norman Thrale
• Occupation: 1898, 80 London Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Baker and confectioner ; Address:
  http://www.thrale.com/hannah_and_norman_thrale_shop
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, 31 Market Place, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England ; Baker and confectioner; : 55 years; Address:
  80 London Road
• Occupation: 31 Mar 1901, 31 Market Place, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England ; Baker and confectioner
• Occupation: 1904, 80 London Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Baker and confectioner
• Occupation: 1912, 80 London Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

The 1901 census age would make Ernest born when his mother was aged 4!

Ernest married Hannah Maria Green in 1896 in Beckenham, Kent, England. Hannah (daughter of George Alfred Green and Lucy Mason) was born about 1867 in Peckham, Surrey, England; died on 8 Nov 1920. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Witness to the wedding of her sister Alice Gertrude Thrale on 26 October 1891

Elizabeth married Thomas George Moss on 29 Jul 1897 in Elstree, Hertfordshire, England. Thomas was born in 1869; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar
• Residence: 26 Oct 1891, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; The Folly

Alice married Samuel Walls on 26 Oct 1891 in Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. Samuel (son of James Abraham Walls) was born about 1868; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, Oswald Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Wife; : 29
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 3 Hill St St Albans, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Wife; : 39

Rosa married Herbert Winters in Sep 1895 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Herbert (son of Noah Winters and Charlotte E) was born in Jan-Mar 1872 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died in Oct-Dec 1940 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar

Charlotte married James Thomas Bullard on 21 Oct 1897 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. James was born about 1871; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Scholar

Other Events and Attributes:

• Military Service: Ralph Thrale's war diaries are in the possession of Richard Thrale of Sandridgebury. Ralph Thrale's war medals are in the possession of Dennis Walker of Sussex.
• Occupation: Postman
• Census: 1881; Son, 2 years old.
• Occupation: 1917; Gunner 20567, 5th Divisional Ammunition Col., Royal Field Artillery
• Property: 1918, Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

Buried:
In Memory of RALPH THRALE

Gunner 20567 5th Divisional Ammunition Col., Royal Field Artillery who died on Tuesday 19th February 1918. Age 39.

Additional Information - Son of Norman Thrale, of Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire.

Commemorative Information - Cemetery: GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY, ARCADE, Italy Grave Reference/Panel Number: Plot 4. Row C. Grave 5. Location: The town of Giavera is in the Province of Treviso. It is 12 kilometres east of Montebelluna and 14 kilometres west of Conegliano on the main road between the two places. Giavera British Cemetery is 500 metres north-west of the town close to the church. - Historical Information: The Italians entered the war on the Allied side, declaring war on Austria, in May 1915. Commonwealth forces were at the Italian front between November 1917 and November 1918. On 4 December 1917, the X1th and XIVth Corps relieved the Italians on the Montello sector of the Piave front, with the French on their left. The Montello sector acted as a hinge to the whole Italian line, joining that portion facing north from Mount Tomba to Lake Garda with the defensive line of the River Piave covering Venice, which was held by the Third Italian Army. The Commonwealth troops on the sector were not involved in any large operations, but they carried out continuous patrol work across the River Piave, as well as much successful counter battery work. In January 1918, an additional sector of the defence on the right was taken over by the Commonwealth troops. Between December and March the Royal Flying Corps carried out a large number of successful raids on enemy aerodromes, railway junctions, and other objectives. In March 1918, the Commonwealth troops on the Montello sector were relieved. Three Divisions (7th, 48th and 23rd) took over the Asiago sector in the mountains north of Vicenza, and two Divisions (5th and 41st) were despatched to France. In October, the 7th and 23rd Divisions were withdrawn from the Asiago Plateau to take over the northern portion of the X1th Italian Corps front from Salletuol to Palazzon, on the River Piave. These Divisions took a prominent part in the Passage of the Piave (23 October-4 November 1918) during the final Battle of Vittorio-Veneto. On 4 November the Armistice came into effect, and active hostilities ceased. Men who died in defending the Piave from December 1917, to March, 1918, and those who fell on the west of the river during the Passage of the Piave, are buried in this cemetery. GIAVERA BRITISH CEMETERY contains 417 Commonwealth burials of the First World War. Within the cemetery stands the GIAVERA MEMORIAL, which commemorates more than 150 members of the Commonwealth forces who died in Italy in 1917 and 1918 and whose places of burial are unknown.

Ralph married Ellen Maud Taylor on 13 Aug 1913 in Hammersmith, Middlesex, England. Ellen (daughter of Edward Henry Taylor) was born on 19 Oct 1880 in Chiswick, Middlesex, England; died on 19 Oct 1957 in Chilworth, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Kate Thrale

Miriam married Tom Gaylard in 1 Oct 1918-31 Dec 1918 in Godstone, Surrey, England. Tom died after 1918. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881; Daughter; : 6 days old

May married Andrew Goodman in 1 Jul 1928-30 Sep 1928 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Andrew (son of ? Goodman) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 8

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 6

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 3
• Residence: 5 Apr 1891, 79 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Living with grandmother Elizabeth Thrale née Peacock and aunt Harriet Hodson née Thrale; : 13

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 3 Apr 1881, The Village, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Residence: 5 Apr 1891, 79 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Living with grandmother Elizabeth Thrale née Peacock and aunt Harriet Hodson née Thrale ; : 10

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; With grandparents Thomas and Elizabeth Thrale on night of census. Rel: G Son Occ: Scholar; : 6 years; Address:
  High Street
• Military Award: 1900; China War Medal
• Occupation: 30 Jun 1914, Singapore; Straits Settlements
• Residence: 30 Jun 1914, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  17 Ramsbury Road
• Occupation: 1928; Inspector of Police

Notes:

Military Award:
The China War of 1900-01 is more commonly referred to as the Boxer Rebellion. The Boxers formed a Chinese secret society known as the _I-ho-ch'uan_ - the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists (hence 'Boxers'). The Boxers and other similar societies aimed to eradicate all foreigners and Christians from China; the government under Dowager Empress Tzu His secretly supported these fanatical organisations.

At the end of the 19th century the Royal Garrison Artillery, which was part of the Royal Artillery, was divided into 3 Divisions:

1. The Eastern Division, HQ at Dover. Depot companies at Dover and Great Yarmouth.


2. The Southern Division, HQ at Portsmouth. Depot companies at Gosport and Seaforth (near Liverpool).


3. The Western Division, HQ at Devonport. Depot companies at Plymouth and Scarborough.

The Garrison Artillery was composed of 104 service companies in 1900, 40 of them in the UK, 37 in various colonies of the Empire and 27 in India. A company was commanded by a major with 6 or so officers, around 10 NCOs and 100 to 200 men.

The uniform of Garrison Artillery was the same as Field Artillery except that they were more likely to wear trousers instead of boots and breeches. On their shoulder straps were the initials of the name of their Division and the number of their company.

On 1 January 1902, the Divisional system was abolished and all companies RGA were re-numbered sequentially from 1 to 105. 2nd Company Southern Division became the 62nd Company RGA and the 15th Company Southern Division became the 91st Company RGA. The China 1900 Medal is normally named to one of these two companies.

The combination of QSA and China was awarded to nearly 500 soldiers of the Royal Garrison Artillery. Two companies were formed in South Africa for service in China. The Gunners came from 15 Company Western Division RGA, 15 Company Southern Division RGA and 2 Company Southern Division RGA. The men all earned the QSA, with up to four clasps, and the China medal, without clasp. The combination is certainly unusual, but it was 43 RGA reservists who earned themselves a rare combination - QSA, China and KSA, having been sent back to South Africa following service in China.

Much more can be learnt from the article written by Lt. Col. McaFarlane in the OMRS Journal Autumn 1993 - _'A slow boat to China - and back again'_ (Lt.Col.(Retd) A.M.Macfarlane), OMRS Journal, Autumn 1993, Volume 32, Number 3, pages 198-200:

In May 1900, 15 W.D. received four 9.45in. B.L. Howitzers, manufactured at the Skoda Works in Austria. Although the last word in heavy artillery, they were never actually fired in anger in South Africa. However, early in July 1900, it was decided to send a siege train armed with these howitzers, under the command of Colonel T. Perrott, from South Africa to join the China Expeditionary Force in the defeat of the Boxer Rebellion. The siege train was to consist of:

• Right Half 15 Company Southern Division RGA - two 9.45in B.L. howitzers


• Right Half 15 Company Western Division RGA - two 9.45in B.L. howitzers


• 2 Company Southern Division RGA - four 4.7in Q.F. guns

2 SD had eight officers and 184 men. The siege train assembled at Cape Town where it embarked in S.S. Antillian on 18th July 1900 and sailed on 23 July. The ship arrived at Singapore on 13 August, left there on 15 August, docked at Hong Kong on 22 August and eventually reached Wei-hai-wei, the base for the Expeditionary Force, on 30 August.

Of course, by that time, Pekin had been relieved and, apart from the odd raid, the Boxer Rebellion was as good as over. After two weeks spent on board ship, the siege train disembarked at Wei-hai-wei but, on 26 October, the two half companies [of the 15 SD and 15 WD] re-embarked on the S.S. Antillian and returned to Hong Kong for the winter, whilst 2 SD remained in garrison at Wei-hai-wei. None of the siege guns fired in anger in China.

Thomas married Hannah Maria Green on 30 Jun 1914 in Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Hannah (daughter of George Alfred Green and Lucy Mason) was born about 1867 in Peckham, Surrey, England; died on 8 Nov 1920. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Jack Thrale
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 5 years; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 1891; : 15 years
• Occupation: 1891; Errand boy
• Residence: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road
• Residence: 5 Dec 1898, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1901; House painter; : 25 years
• Residence: 1901, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  Necton Road
• Occupation: 4 May 1911; House painter journeyman
• Occupation: 5 Dec 1898-24 Dec 1927; Painter / Journeyman. Latter date of 24 Dec 1927 is taken from marriage certificate of Son Wiliam Thomas Thrale and Brenda Priscilla Wright.

John married Rosetta Wright on 5 Jun 1898 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Rosetta (daughter of James Wright and Eliza Crawley) was born between 1877 and 1879; died on 28 Jan 1952; was buried in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 24 years

Notes:

No trace of Rose Thrale on Ancestry.com on Wednesday 30 March 2016

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Cissie Thrale
• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 4 years; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 13 Dairy Lamer Lane, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Dairy Work; : 34

Harriet married George Squires in 1 Jul 1898-30 Sep 1898 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. George was born on 25 Jan 1880 in Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England; died in 1954 in Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 3 Apr 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 2; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 31 Mar 1901, 119 Charing Cross Road, Soho, Middlesex, England; Servant, single

Notes:

The 1891 census lists a 23 year old Mary Thrale, born in Hertfordshire, working in St Anne's Parish Soho as a barmaid. This could be this Mary Thrale

Name:
Polly is a for diminutive Molly, which is a diminutive for Mary

Mary married Frederick W Eberwein in Oct-Dec 1911 in Willesden, Middlesex, England. Frederick and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Religion: Church of England
• Census: 1881, Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England; : 1 year; Address:
  Cottage
• Census: 1891, 36 Hatfield Road, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 11 years
• Census: 1901; Housepainter; : 21 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 Bull Yard, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; House painter; : 29
• Military Service: 04 Dec 1915 - 9 Apr 1919; Regimental number: 242756. Regiment: Royal Engineers. London Electrical Engineers.; : 36

Notes:

Military Service:
Attested: 4 December 1915
Reserves: 5 December 1915
Mobilised 1 March 1917
Demobilisation: 9 April 1919 with 'Sharp pleurisy pneumonia'.

Frederick married Maude Elizabeth Brazier (Emily) on 2 Aug 1902 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Maude (daughter of George Brazier and Sarah) was born in Jul - Sep 1884 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died in Oct - Dec 1962 in Hastings, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891; : 10 years
• Residence: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road
• Census: 1901; : 20 years
• Occupation: 15 May 1905; Painter, Journeyman
• Occupation: 19 Sep 1931; House painter

Walter married Elizabeth Ray (Liza) on 28 Jan 1905 in Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of Joseph Ray) was born in 1880 in Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; died about 1962 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Died:
The informant on her death certificate is J. M. C. C. McCulloch "Aunt" who was present at the death

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Maud Thrale
• Census: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 7 years; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road

Maud married Frank Collins in 1 Apr 1918-30 Jun 1918 in St Albans Cathedral, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Frank died after 1918. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 4 years; Address:
  36 Hatfield Road
• Census: 1901; Telegraph Messenger; : 15 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Plumber; : 25

Frank married Emily Bonham in Oct - Dec 1913. Emily (daughter of John Bonham) was born in 1886; died in Oct - Dec 1956 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891; : 2 years
• Residence: 1891, 36 Hatfield Road, New Marford, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England
• Census: 1901; : 12 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Bricklayer; : 23
• Occupation: 11 Apr 1914; Bricklayer
• Military Service: 1918; Sapper 159009, 106th Field Coy., Royal Engineers
• Residence: 1918, 74 Carvels Road, Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England

Notes:

Died:
In Memory of CHARLES THRALE Sapper 159009 106th Field Coy., Royal Engineers who died on Tuesday 28th May 1918. Age 31.

Additional Information: Son of William Thrale, of 1a, Butlin Rd., Luton, Beds., and the late Sophia Thrale; husband of Edith May Thrale, of 74, Cravells Rd., Harpenden, Hertfordshire.

Commemorative Information - Cemetery: SOISSONS MEMORIAL, Aisne, France Grave Reference/Panel Number: Location: The town of Soissons stands on the left bank of the River Aisne, approximately 100 kilometres north-east of Paris. The Soissons Memorial will be found in the public square. The memorial register is kept at the Mairie where it may be consulted. - Historical Information: The original British Expeditionary Force crossed the Aisne in August 1914 a few kilometres west of Soissons, and re-crossed it in September a few kilometres east. For the next three and a half years, this part of the front was held by French forces and the city remained within the range of German artillery. At the end of April 1918, five divisions of Commonwealth forces (IX Coprs) were posted to the French 6th Army in this sector to rest and refit following the German offensives on the Somme and Lys. Here, at the end of May, they found themselves facing the overwhelming German attack which, despite fierce opposition, pushed the Allies back across the Aisne to the Marne. Having suffered 15,000 fatal casualties, IX Corps was withdrawn from this front in early July but was replaced by XXII Corps, who took part in the Allied counterattack that had driven back the Germans by early August and recovered the lost ground. The Soissons Memorial commemorates almost 4,000 officers and men of the United Kingdom forces who died during the Battles of the Aisne and the Marne in 1918 and who have no known grave. The memorial was designed by G H Holt and V O Rees, with sculpture by Eric Kennington.

Charles married Edith May Curl on 11 Apr 1914 in Harpenden, Hertfordshire, England. Edith (daughter of George Curl) was born in 1 Jan 1886-31 Mar 1886 in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England; died after 1918. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 9
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Single; : 20

Notes:

Died:
As no post mortem was deemed to be necessary, we assume that she suffered from this for some time.

Hermione married Edgar Wilsher in 1 Jul 1915-30 Sep 1915 in Paddington, Middlesex, England. Edgar (son of George New Wilshire and Sarah Mead) was born in 1 Apr 1886-30 Jun 1886; died in 1968 in Acton, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 7 years
• Occupation: 1 Mar 1916; Engineer

Alfred married Evelyn Mary Brown on 1 Mar 1916 in St Mary's Church, Luton, Bedfordshire, England. Evelyn (daughter of Charles Brown) was born about 1892; died in 1 Apr 1953-30 Jun 1953 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Note: Luton FC supporter.
• Name: Herbert Donald Thrale
• Residence: Kilburn, Middlesex, England; Address:
  28 Chichelle Road
• Census: 1901; : 6 years
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; Errand boy, single; : 16
• Physical Description: Sep 1914; Army medical examination on enlistment aged 19 years, 6 months. Height 5 feet 7 inches. 34" chest. Good vision and good physical development. However, daughter Olga Thrale later recalled that her father was Mum said he was 6ft 3 inches tall.
• Military Service: Sep 1914 - 05 May 1919; Enlisted with 17th County of London Battalion as Private 3097 in St Albans. Transferred to Royal Engineers. WR11368 & 551343. Transferred to Labour Corps 282425. Discharged at Purfleet Essex. Served in France. According to his son Brian Thrale, during WWI Herbert stabbed a German in the hand and ran away.
• Occupation: 28 Sep 1920-28 Aug 1928; Journeyman house painter
• Residence: 28 Aug 1928, Kilburn, Middlesex, England
• Residence: 1932 - 1935, 89 Netherwood Street, Kilburn, Middlesex, England
• Residence: 1949, 10 Westcroft Way, Cricklewood, Middlesex, England
• Occupation: 4 Sep 1959; Turner, Clockmaker
• Residence: Bef 1960, 8a Leamington Road, West Hampstead, Middlesex, England
• Occupation: 18 Mar 1960; General labourer clock factory (retired)

Notes:

Herbert was said to be a bundle of fun. Although, he could also sometime be drunk and violent towards his wife. However, he came home one day and said he would never drink alcohol again with one exception, when his son Kenneth David Thrale got married, he didn't drink again until he died.

Name:
Grandson Stacey Donald Thrale, named in his memory.

Died:
Certified after post-mortem without inquest. Herbert died from a heart attack on the toilet on the morning of his last day at work before he retired.

Herbert married Rose Spittle on 28 Sep 1920 in Registry Office, Willesden, Middlesex, England. Rose (daughter of Henry Charles Spittle and Elizabeth Chamberlain) was born on 15 Jan 1894 in 58 Church Street, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England; died on 9 Mar 1973 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England; was buried on 15 Mar 1973 in Golders Green, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 4
• Census: 2 Apr 1911, 12 High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England; : 14
• Residence: 1946, Muswell Hill, Middlesex, England; Address:
  38 Princess Avenue

Notes:

Drinker of sherry and very nice person.

Jessie married Flight Lieutenant William David Guyler (David) in 1 Jul 1918-30 Sep 1918 in Hampstead, Middlesex, England. William died on 11 May 1940 in Kranji, North West, Singapore. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Reginald married in 1 Jul 1931 - 31 Sep 1931 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1901; : 2 years

Notes:

No trace of any marriage for William Thrale born 1900 (+/- 2years) found on ancestry.com as of 28 March 2016.

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Frances married Edward W Horwood in Jan - Mar 1941 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, High Street, Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, England

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt. Birth: 1896
• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; 80 London Road

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 31 Mar 1901, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England; 80 London Road

William married Vera Joyce Phillipson in 1 Jul 1926-30 Sep 1926 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Vera (daughter of Victor Edward Phillipson and Eliza Jane Atterbury) was born on 27 Jan 1903 in London, England; died in Jan 1984 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Ralph married Gwendolen Elsie Randall in 1 Jul 1931-30 Sep 1931 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Gwendolen was born on 17 Sep 1906; died in Mar 2001 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Dorothy Moss

Family/Spouse: Stanley Richard Pankhurst. Stanley was born in 1907 in Surbiton, Surrey, England; died in 1983. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Caroline married Leonard Ellis in 1926. Leonard was born in 1897; died in 1994. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mildred married Norman Kenneth Walker on 11 Jan 1941 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. Norman was born on 1 Feb 1921 in Wembley, Middlesex, England; died on 18 Jul 1985 in Gaithersburg, Montgomery, Maryland, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]